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An interview from the KQED, “Meeting of the Ways” radio show, with Michael Toms and Will Noffke. During this Q&A radio session, Ram Dass answers question on the topics of perceptions, spiritual communities, and the guru/chela relationship.
Recorded in San Francisco in October, 1975.
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Ram Dass was involved in a manipulative cult with a controversial NYC sham teacher at this time. He spends much of this interview talking about her in a positive light. Several others in this circle, like Raghu, were involved in this harmful cult for a long time. Ram Dass eventually exposed this “high pure being” and “poor teacher” in his piece “Egg on my Beard.” It is interesting what he was able to learn from these experiences despite being scammed. His take on the relationship with the divine mother as essence of the world is spot on. This situation is a good example of how even the most earnest intelligent folks can easily get caught up in manipulation by spiritual teachers. Remember: the satguru is inside. Stay connected inside as you explore this journey. Don’t believe the lies.
This was a gem of an episode. Felt like a real ‘deep cut’. Please keep these dialogues that expand beyond Ram Dass’ general ‘set list’ or topic points of his lectures over the years coming. Thanks so much. Ram Ram.
When you hear the exactly right thing at the right time, synchronicity. Thank you for sharing this. Perfect and timeless.
Ram ram 🙏🌹🙏🙏🌹🌹
Thank you for putting this up. Be here now.
Whaddup chef. Welcome back. You ever wonder why we are all stuck with that mildly strange Trans-ATLANTICS type of accent English speakers use? Its rather odd to be honest, my orginal Egg language is a very guttural from of Latin. Like the french speak with a natural lilt. But ours has a deep grawl.. We need to be grateful, we have verbal characters that can be written. Reading beads is a nuanced and a nuisance. Boob food is nice. Yes, but ultimately it's a San Pedro slap clap. Regardless of "form" there are folks that like to imbibe based on form. Tantriclly and Tactically, Tubes are suitable for some. I find i like to get lost in the sauce thinking about returning as a Hummingbird and having my beak properly planted to the nurturing nectars. It goes without saying if you are harvesting fruiting bodies off a tube, pink man would say "that's pretty ghey". Can you imagine.. being one of the 3 stooges? To strike another without malice, count or suffering. And to receive the slap or knuckle blubber or conkers. Feels like liquid form breakdancing when you are passing the wave. I need to ask Jim and Sam what they make of this..
Life's complicated 😓
Interesting! Ram Dass was a follower of Joya at that time.
NIce memories of this show for me!
JAI JAI MA 💞